Background information: I wanted to run a six-week cycle to compare the effects of higher-dose testosterone enanthate compared to my usual 150mg/week. However, I haven’t had time to research pct much, so sorry in advance if this question is very basic!
I have read that eight weeks is sufficient for PCT, but I wondered if a six-week cycle would be half as effective?
What pct protocol would u recommend doing after my six-week cycle? I have read that post-cycle therapy should start from the end of your last injection. Therefore 7-8 days after my last shot, I planned on starting PCT (toremifene 60mg/ed, two bottles Clomid 100mg each, and 1 Nolvadex 40mg). Would this benefit me compared to going straight into a normal post-cycle therapy routine for 10-12 weeks? Test enanthate is enanthate 250mg weekly + Clomid/Toremifene citrate/Nolvadex 20 days total.
I hope this is not too basic of a question. I have read that eight weeks is sufficient for PCT, but I wondered if a six-week cycle would be half as effective?
I have read that post-cycle therapy should start from the end of your last injection. Therefore 7-8 days after my last shot, I planned on starting PCT (toremifene 60mg/ed, two bottles Clomid 100mg each, and 1 Nolvadex 40mg). Would this benefit me compared to going straight into a normal post-cycle therapy routine for 10-12 weeks?
Test enanthate is enanthate 250mg weekly + Clomid/Toremifene citrate/Nolvadex 20 days total.
Six weeks of test e at 250mg/week is not enough time. You would need 8-12 weeks. On the other hand, eight weeks of test at 150mg/week seems to be a good amount, if anything, maybe even a little low. I believe what most people do for PCT after a “first cycle” (your first run with a steroid) is just run a regular post-cycle therapy regimen for 4-6 weeks or so. However, it does depend on what steroids you ran during your cycle and which one predominates in your blood after stopping use. In general, I recommend 4-5 months of PCT following your first cycle regardless. Generally, the Nolva dose works well for testosterone esters, but Clomid is good too. Toremifene citrate is generally not recommended for testosterone esters. I’m not sure if cutting the doses in half would make a difference or not, though, since you only ran the test e at 250mg/week for six weeks (total 1.5-2mg/kg).
Eight weeks of test at 150mg/week probably isn’t enough either. Depending on which steroid predominates after your cycle, it might be fine, but eight weeks seems like the bare minimum for PCT. Generally, people run 4-6 week PCT following their first cycle regardless, though, and that might be beneficial with an only three-week long-only test e cycle as well. A good Nolva dose is 40mg/day on the days you are not pinning; for this cycle, if I was running it, I would use 100mg/week Nolva. Clomid is good too, but people tend to run less on test esters, although some do fine on 150mg/week. Like with Nolva, Clomid 40mg/day probably works well here, depending on how much time has passed since your last shot and what steroid predominates in your blood after stopping use. Toremifene citrate is generally not recommended for testosterone esters. The doses you picked seem fine and should be beneficial regardless, though, so it should be okay either way whether or not you cut them in half.
Generally, the Nolva dose works well for testosterone esters, but Clomid is good too. Toremifene citrate is generally not recommended for testosterone esters. I’m not sure if cutting the doses in half would make a difference or not, though, since you only ran the test e at 250mg/week for six weeks (total 1.5-2mg/kg).
During this cycle of yours, 150mg/week seems like the bare minimum, and eight weeks seems like it might be pushing it depending on what steroid predominates after your cycle. For example, if drostanolone prevailed and made up 80% of the total, then an eight-week PCT might be fine, but most people recommend 10-12 weeks with most drugs, even if they aren’t coming back that high. Regarding the PCT, there isn’t a special benefit in starting earlier than you need to, so I would start when your levels are down to an acceptable level. So if you want 4-5 months of PCT following your first cycle regardless, then start it seven weeks after your last shot. On the other hand, if you want a regular PCT for this full cycle (3 shot only test e at 250mg/week), then start it four weeks post cycle and take everything for six weeks total, including Nolva on days not pinning Clomid and then the Nolvadex on top of that.
Even though Toremifene citrate is “generally not recommended” by many sources for testosterone, I wouldn’t be too worried about it.
I wouldn’t cut the doses in half because you don’t need to. You can add a little more of anything if you want, but since this is only your first run with steroids, I would just use what has been recommended so far. Also, you should have blood work done before starting and during PCT. If someone told me that they ran a full testosterone cycle at 250mg/week for six weeks, three shots would total. I would generally recommend a 4-6 month PCT, probably consisting of Nolva 40mg/day on days not pinning, Clomid 150mg/week on days not pinning, and Nolvadex 20mg/day all 30 days (60mg total).
I wouldn’t be too worried about it. Some people do better on Nolva than Clomid, but they are both good. Toremifene citrate is recommended by most sources for testosterone esters, though, so I wouldn’t be too worried about that either. Start your PCT when your levels drop to an acceptable level, and then continue with the PCT for 4-5 months if you want to keep things simple. Good luck!
Eight weeks of test at 150mg/week probably isn’t enough either; depending on which steroid predominates after your cycle, it might be fine, but eight weeks seems like the bare minimum for PCT. Generally, people run 4-6 week PCT following their first cycle regardless, and you seem to be running a pretty standard one. You should have blood work done before starting, and you can continue with the PCT for 4-5 months if you want to keep things simple. Good luck!